Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Why Do Muslims Convert to Christianity?

There's a lot of talk about Muslims becoming Christians all of a sudden due to Magdi Allam's baptism but I'm also seeing some quite misleading connections being made by people who have little or no knowledge of the subject.

I have done a number of substantive posts on the subject over the past year which could provide a lot of helpful and solid background now that MBB's are suddenly fashionable.

I'd like to start with an extraordinary bit of research undertaken by Dr. Dudley Woodbury, Professor of Islamics, Fulbright Scholar, expert in medieval Arabic literature, consultant to governments, and one of my former teachers.

"So what attracts Muslims to follow Jesus? Between 1991 and 2007, about 750 Muslims who have decided to follow Christ filled out an extensive questionnaire on that basic question. The respondents—from 30 countries and 50 ethnic groups—represent every major region of the Muslim world. (Copies of the questionnaire are available from dudley@fuller.edu.) The participants ranked the relative importance of different influences and whether they occurred before, at the time of, or after their decision to follow Christ. While the survey, prepared at Fuller Theological Seminary's School of Intercultural Studies, does not claim scientific precision, it provides a glimpse into some of the key means the Spirit of God is using to open Muslim hearts to the gospel."

Woodbury's summary of the five most frequently mentioned reasons:

1) The lifestyle of Christians. Former Muslims cited the love that Christians exhibited in their relationships with non-Christians and their treatment of women as equals.

2) The power of God in answered prayers and healing. Experiences of God's supernatural work—especially important to folk Muslims who have a characteristic concern for power and blessings—increased after their conversions, according to the survey. Often dreams about Jesus were reported.

3) Dissatisfaction with the type of Islam they had experienced. Many expressed dissatisfaction with the Qur'an, emphasizing God's punishment over his love. Others cited Islamic militancy and the failure of Islamic law to transform society.

4) The spiritual truth in the Bible. Muslims are generally taught that the Torah, Psalms, and the Gospels are from God, but that they became corrupted. These Christian converts said, however, that the truth of God found in Scripture became compelling for them and key to their understanding of God's character.

5) Biblical teachings about the love of God. In the Qur'an, God's love is conditional, but God's love for all people was especially eye-opening for Muslims. These converts were moved by the love expressed through the life and teachings of Jesus. The next step for many Muslims was to become part of a fellowship of loving Christians.



That's the summary. Now the details. i will bold the reasons these real MBBs give for their conversion.


Since a reader had posted a query as to why Roman Catholics were not participating in a meeting on evangelization of Muslims, I thought it would be good to print the bulk of this article. It demonstrates the variety of ways in which Muslims are being drawn to Christ. The same means are also true for other non-Christians who seek baptism.

Seeing a lived faith

First, we can look at the experiences that most influenced Muslims. For example, respondents ranked the lifestyle of Christians as the most important influence in their decision to follow Christ. A North African former Sufi mystic noted with approval that there was no gap between the moral profession and the practice of Christians he saw. An Egyptian contrasted the love of a Christian group at an American university with the unloving treatment of Muslim students and faculty he encountered at a university in Medina. An Omani woman explained that Christians treat women as equals. Others noted loving Christian marriages. Some poor people said the expatriate Christian workers they knew had adopted, contrary to their expectations, a simple lifestyle, wearing local clothes and observing local customs of not eating pork, drinking alcohol, or touching those of the opposite sex. A Moroccan was even welcomed by his former Christian in-laws after he underwent a difficult divorce.

Many Muslims who faced violence at the hands of other Muslims did not see it in the Christians they knew (regrettably, of course, Christians have been guilty of interethnic strife elsewhere). Muslim-on-Muslim violence has led to considerable disillusionment for many Muslims, from those who survived the 1971 war between the Bengalis of East Pakistan and the Pathans, Sindis, and Punjabis of West Pakistan, to Arab and Berber tensions in North Africa, and to Arab herdsmen fighting black African farmers in Darfur.

The next most important influence was the power of God in answered prayers and healing. Like most of the factors that former Muslims list, experiences of God's supernatural intervention often increase after Muslims decide to follow Christ.

In North Africa, Muslim neighbors asked Christians to pray for a very sick daughter who then was healed. In Senegal, a Muslim marabout (spiritual leader) referred a patient to Christians when he was not able to bring healing. In Pakistan, after a pilgrimage to Mecca did not cure a disabled Shiite girl, she was healed following Christian prayer.

Closely related was the finding that some noted deliverance from demonic power as another reason they were attracted to Jesus. After all, he is the healing prophet in the Qur'an and has power over demons in the Gospels. In northern Nigeria, a malam (what some might call a witchdoctor) used sorcery against a man who was considering following Jesus. The seeker became insane, and his extended family left him. But then he prayed that Christ would free him, and he was healed.

It helps to note that a third of the 750-person sample were folk Muslims, with a characteristic concern for power and blessings. It is also worth noting that the Jesus portrayed in the Qur'an is a prophet who heals lepers and the blind and raises the dead. Not surprisingly, many Muslims find him attractive. Of course, power and blessings do not constitute the final word for Muslims. The Bible also offers a theology of suffering, and many Muslims who follow Christ find that their faith is strengthened through trials.

The third biggest influence listed by respondents was dissatisfaction with the type of Islam they had experienced. They expressed unhappiness with the Qur'an, which they perceive as emphasizing God's punishment more than his love (although the Qur'an says he loves those who love him [3:31]). As for Islam's requirement that liturgical prayer should be in Arabic, a Javanese man asked, "Doesn't an all-knowing God know Indonesian?" Others criticized folk Islam's use of amulets and praying at the graves of dead saints.

Some respondents decried Islamic militancy and the imposition of Islamic law, which they said is not able to transform hearts and society. This disillusionment is broad in the Muslim world. Many Iranians became interested in the gospel after the Khomeini revolution of 1979 brought in rule by clergy. Pakistanis became more receptive after President Zia ul-Haq (1977-1988) tried to implement Islamic law. And Afghans became more open after Islamist Taliban conquest and rule (1994-2001).

As with Paul and Cornelius in Acts, visions and dreams played a role in the conversion of many. More than one in four respondents, 27 percent, noted dreams and visions before their decision for Christ, 40 percent at the time of conversion, and 45 percent afterward. Many Muslims view dreams as links between the seen and unseen worlds, and pre-conversion visions and dreams often lead Muslims to consult a Christian or the Bible.

Frequently a person in the vision, understood to be Jesus, radiates light or wears white (one respondent, though, said Jesus appeared in green, a color sometimes associated with Islamic holy persons). An Algerian woman had a vision that her Muslim grandmother came into her room and said, "Jesus is not dead; he is here." In Israel, an Arab dreamed that his deceased father said, "Follow the pastor. He will show you the right way." Other dreams and visions occurred later and provided encouragement during persecution. A Turkish woman in jail because of her conversion had a vision that she would be released, and she was. A vision of thousands of believers in the streets proclaiming their faith encouraged a young man in North Africa to persevere.

The message is the medium

Next in attraction for Muslims is the spiritual truth in the Bible. The Qur'an attests that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel (commonly understood as the New Testament) are from God. Even though Muslims are generally taught that these writings became corrupted, they often find them compelling reading and discover truth that they conclude must be from God. The Bible helped one Egyptian understand "the true character of God." The Sermon on the Mount helped convinced a Lebanese Muslim that he should follow the one who taught and exemplified these values.

Respondents were also attracted by the Bible's teaching about the love of God. In the Qur'an, although God loves those who love him, his love is conditional. He does not love those who reject faith (3:31-32). There is nothing in the Qur'an like, "This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins" (1 John 4:10), or, "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8).

A West African was surprised by God's love for all people, even enemies. Likewise, although the Qur'an denies that God is a father (37:152), many Muslims find this a comforting concept. Particularly attractive to Muslims is the love expressed through the life and teachings of Jesus. The Qur'an already calls him faultless (19:19). Many Muslims are attracted to him by his depiction in the Qur'an and then go to the Gospels to find out more. A Saudi was first drawn to him at a Christmas Eve service in Germany—even before he knew German. Like many, an Iranian Shiite was attracted to Christ before he was attracted to Christianity. A North African Sufi found Jesus' portrayal as the Good Shepherd particularly meaningful. When Christ's love transforms committed Christians into a loving community, many Muslims listed a desire to join such a fellowship as next in importance.

Subconscious influences

For the most part, respondents did not say that political or economic circumstances influenced their decisions. But it's hard not to notice that Iranians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Bangladeshis, and Algerians became more responsive after enduring Muslim political turmoil or attempts to impose Islamic law. Christian relief and development agencies try hard to guard against spiritually misusing their position as providers of desperately needed goods and services. But natural disasters in South Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Sahel region inevitably put Muslims in contact with Christians trying to follow Jesus. It is no surprise that some of these Muslims also choose to follow Christ.

In many places, apostasy [from Islam] is tantamount to rejecting family, religion, culture, ethnicity, and nationality. Thus, many Muslim converts face persecution from family, police, or militants. Two friends were unable to fill out the questionnaire—one because he was apparently poisoned by his own family, the other because the government imprisoned him and later his tongue was cut out by a warlord so that he could no longer say the name of Jesus.

But Muslim converts to Christ know that such persecution can, in a mysterious way, be part of the best of times. Jesus, in fact, said it was a blessing. That's because with or without persecution, Muslims are discovering an experiential truth unknown to them before. As a Zambian Muslim exclaimed, 'God loves me just as I am.'"

21 Comments:

At March 26, 2008 4:47:00 PM MDT , Blogger akhter said...

IS THIS THE BIBLE YOU ARE SO PROUD OF?



Prophet Muhammad was foretold by the name in the Old Scriptures!



Which "Book" is the "People of the Book's"?
The Law of Moses is the "Book" that the Noble Quran mentioned.



COUNTLESS abrogations by GOD Almighty in Moses' and David's books in the OT!

Refuting Sam Shamoun's "Consummation VS Abrogation" lies!




Christianity's biggest lies, the Crucifixion and Resurrection, were never prophesied in the Bible's Old Testament!

You'll also see how John 19:36 falsely referenced Psalm 34:20 about the unbroken bones of Jesus, when Psalm 34:19-20 were talking about any righteous man.



GOD's stupidity is smarter than all of us?!

(According to Paul's blasphemies)


The real Bible: Who's got it?



Exposing the false trinity - A youtube channel by brother Brahim.



The lie of the crucifixion!

(According to the early Christians)

The New Testament confirms the Apocalypse of Peter which claims that Jesus never died on the cross!

1. Did the Disciples of Jesus really die for the trinity and/or crucifixion lie?

2. The many different Canons (New Testaments) that Christians believe in, and the hundreds of manuscripts.

3. A video about the writings of Jesus' own family members that were banned by the church because they presented Jesus as a mere servant of GOD Almighty and never once did they talk about any crucifixion or resurrection! Saint Jude, another one of Jesus' family, also warns about the internal enemies who will mislead many and teach false doctrines that are outside the "family's tradition".

Also according to several of Jesus' Disciples' early writings!

Jesus never got crucified according to Islam and the early Christians' doctrines!





Allah Almighty Said:

"Do they not ponder on the Qur'an? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. (The Noble Quran, 4:82)"



101 Contradictions in the Bible!



Deuteronomy 4:2 clearly declares that the Bible is corrupt!



The different "Canons" of the Bible!

Different and conflicting variations of "gospels" and "books" that are disagreed upon by the Churches today.



Also visit:

Evidence proving that the previous Scriptures that existed among the Arabs in Medina weren't the same as Constantine's "Bible".

Visit the section that talks about this subject in the link.





The Shamoun-Winn Trinity Debate!

pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)Sam Shamoun VS Craig Winn on what trinity really means! pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

See how the two trinitarian-stooges proved that trinity is no more than a big lie!





The Trinity Audio Debate!

(click here)

Listen to brother Sami Zaatari destroy Sam Shamoun's arguments!

WARNING!! Sam Shamoun kept throwing foul insults! Viewer's discretion is advised.
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What does "Jesus is the heir" really mean? Does it mean he is the heir of GOD Almighty, or is this just another trinitarian lie?

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My (Sami's) Review of the Debate with Sam Shamoun on Is Jesus God?

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Exposing the lying missionary Sam Shamoun - Response to his small debate review.
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Responding to Answering-Islam’s (wildcat's) debate Review.
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This web site gives a good review on Sam Shamoun's foul character.









GOD's stupidity is smarter than all of us?!



Golden Rule in the bible?! See the real Golden Rule in Islam!



GOD supposedly Changing His Mind (abrogation) in the Bible!
See the moral contradictions that unjustly favor the strong over the weak in the Bible!



Why did Jesus initially say that all non-Jews (Gentiles) were the "Jews' dogs"?
He even initially rejected a Gentile believer!



The many different and contradicting canons (bibles) that existed and still exist today!
From the Islamic Awareness web site.



The problems with textual integrity in the Bible.
From the Islamic Awareness web site.



Paul nullified and contradicted the point of Baptism.
Him calling the disbelievers, who are supposed to be doomed to Hell, as "sanctified" and "holy" is clear nonsense and stupidity, and further proves with CLEAR-CUT proofs that his words were not Revelations from GOD Almighty. It also contradicts GOD Almighty's verdict about them in the Old Testament.





Introduction:

We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.

The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.





Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible:

The sub sections here are:

1- Historical proofs of the Bible's corruption. Also includes detailed refutations and exposing of Paul's lies.
2- False claims and clear contradictions.
3- Textual variants and integrity problems, and Abrogation.
4- Incoherence and Incompleteness.

5- What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?

6- Other Corruptions and Topics.
7- Muslim Rebuttals.

8- The Bible's "original manuscripts had been lost" according to the Christian scholars and theologians.



For sub-section #7 above:
They openly admit that the Bible is corrupt, and the original manuscripts had been lost.





1- Historical proofs of the Bible's corruption:

Just who were the real authors of the Bible? Today's Books and Gospels' authors of the Bible are UNKNOWN. See the comments from the NIV Bible itself.

A video about the writings of Jesus' own family members that were banned by the church because they presented Jesus as a mere servant of GOD Almighty and never once did they talk about any crucifixion or resurrection! Saint Jude, another one of Jesus' family, also warns about the internal enemies who will mislead many and teach false doctrines that are outside the "family's tradition".

Carm.org agrees with the Quran on the Bible's corruption!

"Fairy tales and fables in the Bible" say the Christian and Bible theologians themselves!

Quotes from the Roman Catholic Encyclopedia admitting that the Bible had been corrupt and the original manuscripts had been lost.

How reliable is the New Testament?

The Reason Why There Are Different Gospel Authors According to Christians.

60 questions to Christians.

A good book talking about history of christianity.

Constantine, the Pagan Emperor and what he made christians to follow.



According to the NIV and KJV Bible's theologians, the gospels were written by mysterious and unknown people, in unknown places and unknown dates!


Exposing Paul's Lies The Noble Quran on Paul and his likes:

"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"

"Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against God, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what God hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against God, and scornfully to reject of His signs!" (The Noble Quran, 6:93)"



GOD's stupidity is smarter than all of us?!

Simple yet devastating proof about Paul was NEVER inspired by the Holy Spirit! - Contradiction in divorce!

Paul literally allowed lying! The end literally justifies the means to him!

How can you say that the Bible has corruption in it when Saint Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16 clearly said that "All Scripture is God-breathed"?

Paul nullified and contradicted the point of Baptism. Him calling the disbelievers, who are supposed to be doomed to Hell, as "sanctified" and "holy" is clear nonsense and stupidity, and further proves with CLEAR-CUT proofs that his words were not Revelations from GOD Almighty. It also contradicts GOD Almighty's verdict about them in the Old Testament.

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Demonstrating how Paul's writings nullify Osama's desperate attempts to finding Bible Contradictions" article.

The Anti-Christ Paul. (By Abdullah Smith)
- Part II.

Paul the Corrupter. (By Abdullah Smith)

The Romantic Origins of Christianity. (By Abdullah Smith)

Paul v/s the Old Testament: 59 Contradictions.

Paul Versus the Disciples.

Paul Contradicts himself.

The Problem with Paul.

Paul's Strange Law.

Paul’s idea of marriage.

The Jews did kill Jesus according to Paul.


PAUL, the self-appointed Prophet, was proven to be a deceiver who contradicted the teachings of Jesus and mocked the Law of Moses.

Are these Paul's words or GOD Almighty's Divine Revelations????

Paul of Tarsus: The Clear-Cut Hypocrite

The Problem of Paul Regarding Esau

The Problem of Paul

Paul of Tarsus: The False Apostle According to Islam

'The Apocryphal Books of Elijah' & Paul

Epimenides Paradox: Was Paul "Inspired"?

Paul's Dependency on Talmudic Writings: Evidence of New Testament Borrowing

Paul and The 'Inspiration' of Scripture

The Influence of the Pauline Epistles Upon The Gospels of The New Testament: Study and Criticism


Famous Theologians and Historians believe that Paul was not truthful.

Is circumcision allowed or not allowed in the Bible? See the clear contradiction between Jesus and Paul.

Paul contradicted himself regarding the women's head covering.

Paul, Peter and John are in clear contradiction with each others regarding the disbelieving husbands to believing wives!

My response to Sam Shamoun's rebuttal to my article "Paul, Peter and John are in clear contradiction with each others regarding the disbelieving husbands to believing wives!".

The authors of the New Testament have conflicts (hostility) with each others. How about for Paul to punch Peter on the face?? That would've been "inspired", wouldn't it?

Jesus (peace be upon him), Paul and the Christian Church.

What Did Paul Want To Know About Jesus?

Paul Broke The Covenant Of God.

Who's Gospel Is Paul Preaching?

Was Paul A Deceiver?

Rebuttal To Sam Shamoun’s Article “To Deceive Or Not To Deceive”.

Where Is This Promise Paul Is Referring To?

Why was Paul prosecuted?

Why is Paul still giving offerings?

Paul's View of Genealogies.

Does The Quran Affirm The Teachings Of Paul: Christian Missionary's Use Of Surah 61:14.

Examining Paul's Divorcement Law on Christian Women.


Historical Errors in the Gospels.

Difficult Questions for the Church.

The Genealogies of Jesus Christ.

Parallel Passages in the Bible.
# Part II.

Have you memorized the OT?

Did Matthew exist in Hebrew?

Biblical Contradiction: Signs Of a True Believer According to Jesus?

Biblical Contradiction: Who Is The Judge of Mankind?

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's Article "The Challenge of Mark 16".

Obvious mistranslations of the Hebrew Manuscripts. See proofs of alterations and deceptions done by the Jews and Christians to disprove Islam in the Bible.

An Arabic-Hebrew Conversion Chart

The Word 'Elohim' in the Hebrew Qur'ân

Maalik vs Molech: The Missionary Name-Game

Allâh is the RIMMON of Syria? A Reply to Christian Mendacity


The lost books of the Bible. See books mentioned in the Bible that are not part of today's Bible.

According to Islam, why did GOD Almighty allow for the Bible to get corrupted?

My detailed rebuttal to a Christian rebuttal about Muhammad was foretold by Jesus. I addressed all of their rebuttal points and refuted them. The article also talks about the 24,000 books that the current Bible's 66 books came from, and how that makes the current 66 chosen books extremely unreliable and doubtful.

Internal and External errors in the Bible. An excellent web site by brother MENJ with lots of evidence!

History of man's corruption in the Bible. Located in section #2 in the link. The section has tons of historical events and details backed by quotes from major scholars, books and historians who used to be Biblical Theologians that expose the historical corruption of the Bible.

The Gospel of John: Gospel or Gossip?

The early Christians rejected Trinity. Early Christians had major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got crucified or not.

Famous Theologians and Historians believe that Paul was not truthful.

Jeremiah 8:8 proves Historical Corruption in the Bible - by John McCarthy. Got detailed archeological evidence.

The Argument of Jeremiah 8:8 Still Standing!

Chapter 2: Christian Proof Texts (Jeremiah 8:8).

The lie of 1 John 5:7 later discovered by the Roman Catholics Theologians.

The lie of 1 John 5:7 and 1 Timothy 3:16.

How can you say that the Bible has corruption in it when Saint Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16 clearly said that "All Scripture is God-breathed"?

Jesus the "Alpha and Omega". Not only this quote doesn't prove Jesus as GOD, but it was also written in a book that is unreliable in later bibles. In the original Bibles, the quote doesn't even exist!!

Arche of the Creation of God as Alpha and Omega. The "Alpha and Omega" doesn't even exist in the original Bibles! It's a lie that was later inserted by trinitarians. See the historical proofs in the article. If their site is down, then you can read the article at this link ON MY SITE.

Man's history of corrupting the Old Testament. See also how most of the Bible is a man-narrated book.

Books mentioned in the Bible that are not part of the "Today's Bible"

Scriptural errors in the Bible.

They say to me: "You say the Bible is corrupt. What makes you think that the Quran isn't too?"

The Mosaic Law, Original Sin and Blood Atonement.

Chapter 5; the Holy Bible.

Arabs - The Seed of Abraham (peace be upon him).

Does the God of the Bible Love Everyone?

Was Solomon An Inspired Author of the Bible?

An Evolution In The Parable of the Wicked Tenants.

Is Jesus The Only Sinless Person According To The Bible?

Was Jesus Sinless?

Is Jesus God Because He Will Judge The People?

Is Jesus God Because He Was Called "The Lord Of The Sabbath"?

Did Jesus' Blessing of Thomas's Testimony Mean That Jesus Agreed With Thomas Calling Him God?

The Implications of Jesus Being Given All Authority.

Who Are Blessed According To The Old Testament: Muslims Or Christians?

Did Prophet Lot (PBUH) Offer His Daughters To Evil Men To Be Raped?

Is Job Sinless?

The Language of the Bible.

Is Jesus God Because He Said That His Words Will Never Pass Away?

Is John 15:13 An Inspired Verse?

Why Didn't Jesus Plainly Say He Was God?

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's Article "Thomas's Confession 'My Lord and my God!'"

The Broken Promise Of Revelation 22:18.

If Jesus Was A Creation Then How Could He Be God?

Jesus Of The Bible Was Inferior To The Angels.

Evolution In The Gospels: Jesus' Healing Capabilities?

According To The Bible Jesus Went To Hell.

Why Did The Jews Accuse Jesus OF Blasphemy?

Where was Jesus Crucified?

Answering Infidel Shamoun on the Lie of Bible Preservation.

The Death of Judas.

The Apostle Martyrdoms.

The False Jesus of Christianity.

Did Jesus Have Female Breasts?

Is The Gospel of Luke a Revelation and Inspiration from God?

The Date of Jesus’ Crucifixion.

The Crucifixion of Judas.

The Hadith Vs. The Gospels.
- Part II.

Jesus and Muhammad Compared.

Bible Commentary on Biblical Terrorism.

Terrorism in the Bible or the Noble Quran?

The Bible on Slavery: What the Christian Scholars say.

Abraham didn’t marry Hagar?

The Legend of Five Hundred Witnesses.

Do Christians Exist?

Is Jesus the Lamb of God?

The Invention of Christianity.

7Q5 Papyrus and The Magdalen Papyrus (Papyrus 64) and the LIES of the pagan christian APOLOGIST Carsten Peter Thiede.

Pagan trintarian christians LIES Regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The 3 Oldest Manuscripts Containing the Corrupted Greek New Testament.....

The Bible (Torah) Codes are CLEARLY FAKE. Also, assassination stories in Moby Dick!

The Truth About Abraham and his SON Ishmael, Peace be upon Them.

What About All Those People (Prophets and others) who came before Jesus (peace be upon him)?

The Investigation into what Language Jesus Spoke.

Detailed article refuting alleged “prophecies” in the Old Testament regarding Jesus.

Refutation to the lie about the New Testament's events were documented by historians.

Refutation to the pagan christians' Deceitful argument that the Corrupted Bible is all a legitimate history book.

Is the Biblical God able or unable to confront iron chariots?

The pagan trintarian christians LIES of “amazing” prophecies of certain events and more.

Rebuttal to the MANY pagan christians who simply say that people should believe on “blind faith”.

The STUPID LIES of the FARCE called the "Shroud of Turin".

The pagan christian LIARS and FRAUDS Rev. Ted Haggard and Benny Hinn.

Jesus Survived the Cross.

The Pagan Origins of the Cross.

Rebuttal to Jochen Katz on “Abdullah Smith and his war against the Crucifixion” - Part I.
- Part II.
- Part III.
- Part IV.

Can we see God or what?

More fraud on shroud.

Forgery of Matthew 23.











2- False claims and clear contradictions:

The Bible's English translations are all different and corrupted. See how the Bible translators are not truthful. They add their personal words, thoughts and interpretations as if they were GOD Almighty's Holy Words. This resulted in having hundreds of English-translated Bibles considerably differing with each others in the translations and in issues that are very serious and are relevant even to the central faith of Christianity.

Unfulfilled Prophecies in the Bible.

A Look At Some of the Prophecies of the New Testament.

Lists of Serious Errors and Contradictions in today's CORRUPTED bible!

Did Jesus Appoint Seventy or Seventy Two Disciples?

15 Clear Chronological Contradictions In The Bible! (By Karim, a new convert to Islam)

What About Those Five Hundred Witnesses Of The Resurrection?

The Resurrection Hoax.

Biblical Contradiction: Is the Word of God Eternal?

Contradictions between Jesus and God. (By a new convert to Islam)

Contradictions in the Psalms. (By a new convert to Islam)

The Bible says Jesus was a Liar. (By a new convert to Islam)

Christianity Contradicts the Bible! and Part II. (By a new convert to Islam)

Jesus Contradicts Himself. (By a new convert to Islam)

The Bible says Jesus broke the Law. (By a new convert to Islam)

The Answer to “Answering Islam” on Bible Contradictions.

The New Testament confirms the Apocalypse (Revelation in Greek) of Peter which claims that Jesus never died on the cross!

Contradictions In The New Testament That Have No Good Answer.

The Golden Rule is nothing but a lie in the bible - killing of children and non-virgin women, enslaving, maiming of enemies, and so much more!

Logical Inconsistencies and stupidity in the Bible's New Testament.

Was Jesus crucified on a tree (according to Peter), cross (according to others), or never got crucified (according to Islam)?

None of Jesus' disciples witnessed the crucifixion. They "all fled" and "deserted" Jesus. This further confirms Islam's claims.

The Bible says: The earth is flat! The Bible claims that the Earth is flat and never moves! It also claims that the Sun hurries back to where it rises!

False and failed Prophecies about the Hour put in the mouth of Jesus in the books of Mark, Luke and Revelation in the New Testament.

Answering Christian Apologist: The Bible error regarding end of times. (By Karim)

Jesus' crucifixion and the end of the World. (By Sami Zaatari)

Biblical Contradiction: Did Jesus Promise His Generation a Sign? (By Bassam Zawadi)

The False Prophecy of Thessalonians. (By Bassam Zawadi)

False Prophecies about the Day of Judgement in the Bible. (By Faisal Azar)

A serious forgery in Luke 24:44-48 about Jesus' "resurrection on the third day" claiming that it was foretold in the OT when it wasn't!

The Resurrection Hoax.

Jesus was never "disfigured beyond human recognition" in the New Testament as the Old Testament predicted! Taken from my Answering Isaiah 53 article.

Paul, Peter and John are in clear contradiction with each others regarding the disbelieving husbands to believing wives!

Paul nullified and contradicted the point of Baptism.

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Demonstrating how Paul's writings nullify Osama's desperate attempts to finding Bible Contradictions" article.

Isaiah and Jesus are in contradiction regarding GOD Almighty's Covenant.

"Jesus is my lord and savior" actually CONTRADICTS the Old Testament.

Is circumcision allowed or not allowed in the Bible? See the clear contradiction between Jesus and Paul.

Was Jesus sent to the Jews only, or to Mankind? See the obvious contradiction in the Bible.

Jesus did what he considered hypocrisy!!

Jesus is a hypocrite for bowing down to GOD only during his desperate times. See another proof in the Bible that Jesus can not be the Creator of the Universe.

Kill your enemy, or love for them what you love for yourself? Jesus killed his enemies when he was strong and they were weak. He contradicted his very own commands about loving the enemy.

Jesus didn’t kill anyone, oh really? Debunking another Christian myth.

The Bible claims that Sarah (Isaac's mother) was Abraham's biological sister.

False prophecies about the Judgment Day in the Bible.

A great site that exposes so many of the contradicting errors in the Bible.

Even more and different listings of Contradicting errors in the Bible.

Ahmad Deedat's list of errors in the Bible. (different list from the ones above).

A small listing but yet with good questions about some key contradictions in the bible.

A listing of 49 contradicting errors in the Bible.

A listing of 100 contradicting errors in the Bible.

A listing of 100 other different errors in the Bible. (different list from the list of 100 contradictions above).

The Bible is in contradiction with itself in explaining paradise.

Contradictions in 2 Timothy 3:16.

Contradicting translations on 1 John 5:7.

Contradictions in Trinity.

Contradictions In the Resurrection Story.

The Resurrection Hoax.

Paul contradicted himself regarding the women's head covering.

Solomon and the idols contradiction in the Bible.

Mark 13:32: The Verse That Christians Have No Answer Around.

Malachi Chapter 2 and the Christian double standard.

Biblical Contradiction: Who Raised Jesus From The Dead?

Which tree couldn’t Adam and Eve eat from?

Biblical Contradiction: Will earth live forever?

Biblical Absurdities.

Biblical Contradiction: Does God Get Weary?

Biblical Contradictions: Can There Be Food That Makes You Unclean?

Biblical Contradiction: Will Adulterers Be Punished?

Imperfection of the God of The Bible.

Biblical Contradiction: Can Woman Be Divorced From Her Husband?

Did Jesus come to Preach Peace?

Biblical Contradiction: Is God's Law Perfect?

Biblical Contradiction: Are the Spirits That Acknowledged Jesus' Divinity Righteous?

Biblical Difficulty: Did David Follow The Lord Completely?

Biblical Difficulty: Was Noah A Sinless Man?

Biblical Difficulty: Was Solomon Really Wiser Than Any Man?

Biblical Difficulty: Who Was The Spirit Speaking To?

The Bible's Scientific blunder on the Moon.

Should the Bible be banned?

Keturah – Wife or Concubine?

Biblical Origins of Masturbation/Onanism, In the Word of God?







3- Textual variants, and Abrogation:

GOD supposedly Changing His Mind (abrogation) in the Bible. See the moral contradictions that unjustly favor the strong over the weak in the Bible!

Textual Variants of the Bible.

The many different and contradicting canons (bibles) that existed and still exist today!

The problems with textual integrity in the Bible.

The Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible.

Parallel Passages in the Bible.

Why Is That Word Not In The NIV Bible?

Divorce in the Bible: A case of abrogation.





4- Incoherence and Incompleteness:

Is Salvation really obtained through Jesus in the New Testament?

Who is exactly Jesus? Is he our Creator or not?

Why is the Bible virtually silent about Jesus' youth years? If he is GOD Almighty (our Creator), then we have some serious and vital information missing!

Is polygamy allowed in the New Testament or not? I chased Sam Shamoun many times to respond to this article, but had no luck. The polytheist trinitarian pagan is on the run in this one! He simply can't answer it!

Is Lesbianism allowed in the OT?

How many years is "few years" and "many years" in these prophecies?

Who is Enoch? He was so important that he was taken up to Heaven alive (he never died), but yet, nothing is mentioned about him!

Where did Cain's wife come from??

Is fornication with non-virgin girls allowed in the Old Testament?

Fairy Tales in the Bible: The dragon who waged war in heaven

Rebuttal to Answering Islam's Article "The Objection of Eating Pork". Is eating "any food" allowed or not??

The Giants: The Bible’s incompleteness and incoherence.

Is marrying your sibling forbidden or not?

The Limit of Children's Obedience To Their Parents.

Paul's Exaggerations: Everything bad is Idolatry!

The punishment for cursing the parents in the New Testament is death!

The Incoherence of The Biblical Jesus' Teachings.

Wine: To Drink it Or Not To Drink It?

The Bible's Incoherence Regarding the Sacrificial son.





5- What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?

Differences between the Noble Quran and Bible only prove Islam's Truthfulness and Divinity.

Allah Almighty transformed some Jews into apes and swines. The Bible seems to clearly support this.

What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?

Did Prophet Muhammad really recognize the Bible as an error-free book?

How is Allah telling the Christians and Jews to rule in accordance with the Bible that is with them according to Noble Verse 7:157 when these scriptures were corrupted by the followers of the religion and could not be found in their true form?

The disagreement between the Noble Quran and Bible about some historical events does not disprove Islam.

The LIE of the "SATANIC VERSES" fabricated against the Noble Quran!! Also, what about satan's temptations to the Bible's Prophets?





6- Other Corruptions and Topics:

Evidence of Christians replacing the "Sun of God" with Jesus whom they call the "Son of God".

Does the Quran Say That It Is Corrupted?

"Son of GOD" conflict between the Bible and the Noble Quran.

"Son of God" means "Servant of God" in Hebrew. Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity.

Can GOD change his mind? Why did he allow for the Bible to get corrupted? What wisdom is he trying to give us? Your Islam is bogus!

Why would God send the Gospel with His prophet Jesus, and then allow all of the disciples of Jesus to be misled by believing that Jesus died on the cross, and thus distort the original message of the Gospel?

The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

The sinless and perfect men in the Bible.

Was Jesus Sinless?

The Bible is the book for the low-lifes, perverts and criminals!

The figurative speech in the Bible proves that Jesus must not be MAGNIFIED to the level of the Creator!

Superstition in the Bible.

The Golden Rule is nothing but a lie in the bible - killing of children and non-virgin women, enslaving, maiming of enemies, and so much more!

The Quran V.S. the Bible - By brother Abdullah Smith, a new convert to Islam.

The rejected verses of the Bible.

Challenge to Christians.

Predestination in the Bible.

Punishments in the Bible.

Did The God Of The Bible Forsake Jesus Christ?

How Islam improves on Christianity?

The Christians now make God into a Toy!

Debunking yet Another Christian myth - Does God really Love Everybody?

A good book talking about history of christianity.

Constantine, the Pagan Emperor and what he made christians to follow.






7- Muslim Rebuttals:

GOD Changing His Mind (abrogation) in the Bible.

Carm.org agrees with the Quran on the Bible's corruption!

My response to Quennel Gale's rebuttal to my article "Just who were the real authors of the Bible?"

My response to Sam Shamoun's rebuttal on Luke 24:44-48.

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun regarding Jesus asking GOD Almighty for forgiveness.

My response to Sam Shamoun's rebuttal to my article "Paul, Peter and John are in clear contradiction with each others regarding the disbelieving husbands to believing wives!".

The LIE of the "SATANIC VERSES" fabricated against the Noble Quran!! Also, what about satan's
temptations to the Bible's Prophets?

Jihad (Fighting for the Cause of GOD Almighty) started with the Bible!

Repetitions in the Noble Quran and the Bible.





8- The Bible's "original manuscripts had been lost" according to the Christian scholars and theologians:

Some Christians decided to respond to many of the Bible's contradictions. They named their site "101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible." Ironically, their own quotes below refute them! For example, you can do a search on this text in their site: "Confirmation of this type of copyist error is found in various pagan writers as well." Even those Christian scholars admit with their own typed words by their own fingers that the Bible does indeed contain "copyist error(s)", and they lowered their Holy Scripture to the level of a pagan book through their comparison. My question is then, how can it be the word of GOD when it contains Satanic "copyist errors"?

By the way, please visit: The Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible.

Answering Infidel Shamoun on the Lie of Bible Preservation.



The Original manuscript don't even exist according to the bible's own theologians!

"Christians readily admit, however, that there have been 'scribal errors' in the copies of the Old and New Testament. It is beyond the capability of anyone to avoid any and every slip of the pen in copying page after page from any book, sacred or secular. Yet we may be sure that the original manuscript (better known as autograph) of each book of the Bible, being directly inspired by God, was free from all error. Those originals, however, because of the early date of their inception no longer exist."

"Because we are dealing with accounts which were written thousands of years ago, we would not expect to have the originals in our possession today, as they would have disintegrated long ago. We are therefore dependent on the copies taken from copies of those originals, which were in turn continually copied out over a period of centuries. Those who did the copying were prone to making two types of scribal errors. One concerned the spelling of proper names, and the other had to do with numbers."

"Most Christians will affirm that the Bible is our rule of faith and practice. It is a little self contradictory to stand in the pulpit and say the word of God is inspired, when in his heart the pastor knows he is not referring to any book here on this earth that people can hold in their hands and believe. He really should say what he believes - that the word of God WAS inspired at one time but we no longer have it, so the best we can do is hope we have a close approximation of what God probably meant to tell us." (http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/transinsp.html)

"It also seems a bit inconsistent to say he believes the originals were inspired, when he has never seen them, they never were together in one single book and they no longer exist anyway. How does he know they were inspired? He accepts this by faith. Yet he seems to lack the faith to actually believe that God could do exactly what He said He would do with His words. God said He would preserve them and that heaven and earth would pass away but His words would not pass away." (http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/transinsp.html)

Yet, this same person writes:

"How Old Was Ahaziah, 22 or 42?

This is an apparent contradiction that frequently is thrown in the face of Christians who believe we have an inspired Bible. Many Atheist, Islam and Bible debunker sites bring up this example. Sad to say, most of the “Christian” apologetic sites which promote the new bible versions cave in here and say the number 42 is a copyist error.

Here is a typical response by those Christians who use and promote the modern versions. This one comes from Techtonics Apologetics. This “defender of the faith” answers: “ Was Ahaziah forty-two or twenty-two (per 2 Kings 8:26) when he ascended the throne? More likely 22, and 2 Chronicles has been hit by a copyist error. See our foundational essay on copyist errors for general background. In favor of the "22" reading in 2 Chronicles: The 2 Kings reading; some LXX and Syriac manuscripts.

This typical Christian response is not limited to this one example, but in many objections brought up by the infidels or the curious, this same rote answer is given. There is a copyist error. There is a typo in God’s book. The skeptics laugh and the modern version proponent looks like a fool.

2 Chronicles 22:2 tells us that Ahaziah was 42 years old when he began to reign. The Hebrew texts, plus Wycliffe 1395,Coverdale 1535, Bishop's Bible 1568, Geneva Bible 1599, the Revised Version, the American Standard Version, Douay 1950, the Spanish Reina Valera 1960, Italian Diodati 1602, NKJV, RSV, NRSV, the Jewish translations of 1917 and 1936, the 1998 Complete Jewish Bible, Hebrew Names Bible, Rotherham's Emphasized Bible, Webster's 1833 translation, the New English Bible 1970, the New Jerusalem, KJV 21st Century, and the Third Millenium Bible all say Ahaziah was 42 years old when he began to reign.

The inspired Hebrew text clearly says Ahaziah was 42 years old. The masoretic scribes were very scrupulous in copying their sacred trust. No word or number was written from memory but each word was carefully checked before he recopied it. The copies were checked and checked again and if there were a single error, the whole was discarded and and new one begun......" (http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/22or42.html)

My Response:

How do you know that the above references (written by ordinary men) that you used in proving that Ahaziah was 42 years old are correct when the original manuscripts had been lost? What makes you be so sure that Ahaziah was indeed 42 years old and not 22 or any other age? You said the Christians make themselves look like "fools" when they attempt to answer away the apparent and irrefutable errors in the Bible. Didn't you too just make an utter fool out of yourself too?

Face it and admit it! The Bible's overwhelming errors and corruptions are unanswerable! The Bible is corrupt no matter how you try to decorate it.


The authors of the sites in the quotes above admit that the entire Bible is NOT perfect, and contains man's corruption or alteration in it. They also admit that the original manuscripts that came from GOD Almighty are lost. I'd like to comment on their points of the type of errors that exist in the Bible today:

1- There is no evidence that the errors are only limited to spelling of proper names and numbers. They're only assuming this and are using it as fact. And even if this was true, then as they openly admitted, this takes away the Bible's perfection. The reader must remember that the Christians' entire polytheist trinity paganism comes solely from conclusions and interpretations! There is not ONE SINGLE claim or hard evidence in the Bible about GOD Almighty being 3, or that Jesus is our Creator. Jesus who ran away from King Herod to Egypt, and who begged GOD Almighty for Mercy and prostrated his face down to the ground before Him on the night of crucifixion can not be the Creator of the Universe. The trinitarian pagans would happily try to convince you that trinity is right from their corrupted book, while at the same time, they openly admit that there are errors and man's alterations that exist in the Bible, and the original manuscripts had been lost. If the original manuscripts had been lost, then what makes you be so sure that trinity is the correct conclusion?

2- According to the Bible's theologians, no one even knows who wrote the copies that they're referring to. In other words, we don't even know if these people were anointed from GOD Almighty or not, because we don't have any evidence that the letters found that make up the Bible today were officially written by men.





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At March 26, 2008 5:01:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Akther:

Thanks for providing such an eloquent example of the very dynamic I've been trying to describe:

If we want to bear fruit as evangelists, building relationship and trust must come before proclamation and apologetics. You gotta build a bridge of trust that can hold a load of truth.

Your check is in the mail.

Sherry W.

 
At March 26, 2008 5:04:00 PM MDT , Blogger Sherry W said...

P.S.

A sense of humor and proportion goes a long way too.

 
At March 27, 2008 2:35:00 AM MDT , Blogger Abu Daoud said...

I get stuff like this at my blog on a fairly regular basis too.

 
At March 27, 2008 6:32:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I am usually overjoyed at conversions to Christianity, one thing that bothers me in re. to converted Muslims is the possibility that they are endangering members of their family -- possibly people of good will, though themselves remaining Muslims -- due to the circumstances regarding apostacy in various Muslim countries.

 
At March 28, 2008 10:52:00 AM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously, it's right to be concerned. But these folks' families have always been in danger. Living under Islamic law is living under intolerable slavery, even for Muslims, and especially for Muslim women. Family life is warped by the assumptions of their societies; self respect is constantly under attack. They aren't allowed to choose their own religion if they're born into Islam, and that's a slavery of the mind and soul. And of course, their souls are in constant jeopardy.

God does what He can to work through these circumstances, and surely Muslims can receive great graces. But still, they are in trouble. We should be very happy and proud of these brave converts.

 
At March 28, 2008 1:52:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was Anonymous on March 27 at 6:32.
I must respectfully disagee with the anonymous poster directly following my comment (3/28 @10:52). Plenty of Muslims in Islamic countries are happy with the status quo, even the women.
Islamic Law provides are fairly safe environment for the majority of people living there. What appeals to one is what one is usually accustomed to. Not knowing any better alternative, they are primarily happy with their lot. I fear that the presence of competing Christian sects could potentially be a bad witness to Muslims and possibly damage the fragile bulwark against infidelity that Islam has been. Would we prefer Arab atheism to Islam?
Mark R

 
At April 1, 2008 11:00:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How little Akther knows about the Old Testament!!! Akther- please read some direct translations, especially those anticipating the arrival of Jesus. None of what you posted is remotely truthful. Also remember that the Bible came before the Quran and was not a religion created by man, but God himself.

 
At April 2, 2008 3:20:00 PM MDT , Blogger akhter said...

The lie of the crucifixion!

(According to the early Christians)

The New Testament confirms the Apocalypse of Peter which claims that Jesus never died on the cross!

1. Did the Disciples of Jesus really die for the trinity and/or crucifixion lie?

2. The many different Canons (New Testaments) that Christians believe in, and the hundreds of manuscripts.

Also according to several of Jesus' Disciples' early writings!

Jesus never got crucified according to Islam and the early Christians' doctrines!







Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was foretold in the Old Scriptures (that exist in the Bible and elsewhere):

The sections here are:

1- In the New Testament.
2- In the Book of Isaiah.
3- In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam.
4- The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today. See proofs from the Bible and History. Cities were mentioned and documented.
5- Muhammad is mentioned by the exact name in the Gospel of Barnabas.
6- Prophet Muhammad mentioned throughout the Old Testament.
7- Rebuttals.







1- In the New Testament:

Being like the teacher. An 11-page PDF file that contains ample proofs from Aramaic showing that the word 'Muslim' was mentioned by Jesus himself.

In the Gospel of John: Muhammad is mentioned by the name and was foretold in the Gospel of John. This is a must read article! It proves that Jesus peace be upon him predicted for the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to come after him.

The Aramaic Bible predicts the coming of Muhammad by the exact word.

Further proofs from the Aramaic Bible Society. A very good proof from the Aramaic Bible Society web site regarding Muhammad's name mentioned in the Greek Bible. This is a must visit link!!.

Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.

My detailed rebuttal to a Christian rebuttal about Muhammad was foretold by Jesus. I addressed all of their rebuttal points and refuted them. The article also talks about the 24,000 books that the current Bible's 66 books came from, and how that makes the current 66 chosen books extremely unreliable and doubtful.





2- In the Book of Isaiah:

Isaiah 42-54 predicts Islam, and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel.

In the Book of Isaiah: Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" that is in the Noble Quran about Muhammad. Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" in the Noble Quran which happened to Muhammad and never happened to any other Prophet. It is the story where the Angel Gabriel repeatedly commands the Prophet to read, and the Prophet (i.e. Muhammad) repeatedly replies "I can't read".

Isaiah's Vision: He saw Jesus riding a donkey and Muhammad riding a camel. He also saw the destruction of Babylon (i.e. Iraq today) and its idol gods, and replacing them with a Divine Religion (i.e. Islam today).

Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.

Muhammad in the Bible, (Isaiah 60), Pilgrimage to Mecca..!

Islamic Fasting was predicted by Isaiah in the Bible.

Isaiah 7:14 describes Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Prophet Muhammad was given "GOD is with us" (Emmanuel)





3- In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam:

Deuteronomy 18:18's Prophet is non other than Prophet Muhammad.

The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible.

The fall of pagan Babylon to pagan Persia in the Bible, and then the fall of pagan Persia (Iran + Iraq) to Islam.

The story of King Heraclius of the Byzantine and the foretold Prophet (Muhammad) in the Bible. See how he was convinced that Prophet Muhammad of Arabia was indeed the foretold Prophet that Jesus predicted to come.

The emigration of the Muslims to Madina was foretold in the Bible.

The story of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible.

Pilgrimage of Ezekiel to Mecca.

See the Proof that "Paran" in the Bible is "Mecca". Paran in the Bible is Mecca today - See the Archeological discoveries that prove Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.

Muhammad in the Bible; Standing upon Mount Arafat.

A great site that also shows Muhammad being foretold in the Bible.

Muhammad in the Old and New Testaments.

Muhammad in the Bible, by Sheikh (Minister) Ahmed Deedat.

Jesus' Sacred place among Muslims. By the Christian Scholar Michael Wolfe.

Prophecies from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

Also please visit Muhammad's (peace be upon him) life, prophecies and responses to all of the false charges against him.





4- The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today:

The "lost tribes of Israel" are the Muslims of Afghanistan and Kashmir -- Proved from the Bible and History -- Afghan and Kashmiri cities mentioned and documented.





5- Muhammad is mentioned by the exact name in the Gospel of Barnabas:

Saint Barnabas is mentioned in the New Testament and he is very well admired too: "For God who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. James, Peter, and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me [Paul] and Barnabas the right hand to fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we [Paul and Barnabas] should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews. (The New Testament from the N.I.V Bible, Galatians 2:8-9)"

Saint Barnabas's story in the New Testament begins in Acts 4:36. People often don't know the name of this great Saint. The reason for that is because he lived and dedicated his life to serve others. His real name was Joseph, but the Christians gave him a nickname of "Barnabas" because it meant the "son of encouragement". Barnabas came alongside people in times of challenge and helped them; see Acts 9:10-28 and Acts 15:36-39 for more details.

So in other words, we really should take his Gospel very seriously and consider it too the inspired word of GOD. Since Christians believe in Paul, John, Mark and Matthew as Prophets of GOD, then they should also consider Barnabas as a Prophet too.

The Gospel of Barnabas on this site. (find the word "Muhammad" in his Gospel)
# How the Gospel of Barnabas Survived?

# Answer to the “Answers” of Samuel Green 1-6 about the Gospel of Barnabas.


The official site for the Gospel of Barnabas on the internet. (find the word "Mohammed" in his Gospel)

You can read the Gospel of Barnabas on their site. (Search for the word "Mohammed")

http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/gbar/ is another site that has the Gospel. Again search for "Mohammed"

You can also buy the Book from Amazon.com here. I bought it and everything matches.

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=article&aid=174





6- Prophet Muhammad mentioned throughout the Old Testament:

The Hidden Truth: Prophet Muhammad is "That Prophet" in the Bible.



7- Rebuttals:

Answer to the “Answers” of Samuel Green 1-6 about the Gospel of Barnabas.

My detailed rebuttal to a Christian rebuttal about Muhammad was foretold by Jesus. I addressed all of their rebuttal points and refuted them.

My response to "Muhammad didn't have witnesses to prove that he was truthf

 
At April 3, 2008 8:18:00 AM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez Ahkter, Your wearing out the scroll wheel on my mouse here.

 
At April 4, 2008 8:37:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello, Ahkter,

You are obviously an aggressively passionate Muslim.

I would like to understand more about why Muslims approach the Bible as they do - but I find your attack on Christianity and Judaism fails to grasp the Jewish-Christian perspective.

I think you have missed the heart and mind of our competing religion - and until you understand the heart of it, you will not be able to argue against us effectively.

I invite you to seek out a much more comprehensive grasp of why we Christians believe what we do, as I know I will need to seek out greater understanding of Islam, that we might both contribute in the future to a more valuable two-way dialogue between Christianity and Islam.

A few points of response, for now, however: we Christians believe in the resurrection because we believe that this is the historical eyewitness account that was passed down. We believe the gospels are authentic historical documents written/dictated by those who knew Christ.

Presumably (from my point of view) other experts in the field far more qualified than I am have already discounted other documents you are claiming to be in conflict with the gospels. Certainly it is impossible for me to critique them myself, just at it would be impossible for you to critique the historicity of the Bible without outside help.

And your treatment of the Old Testament seems self-contradictory. On the one hand you say it says it is fundamentally flawed, and on the other hand you say it predicts Mohammed. It seems strange to me that you would work to utterly discredit a document, and, for that matter, insult it, and then use it to support your own faith - but I am new to this element of Islam also.

Your comment about Paul's depiction of God's 'stupidity' fails to grasp what Paul is saying: he is being metaphorical. Paul is not saying that God is stupid - rather, he is saying that Man's reasoning is stupid next to God.

I do not have the time to address all your points here - but there are answers to them all. I suggest you take them up more personally with a Christian who is accustomed to the debate.

Have a good day.

 
At April 5, 2008 4:54:00 AM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few more comments to Akhter, if I may:

I can see why you would seek to discredit the Old and New Testaments, because they are, from what I understand, in direct conflict with the Quran. If the Quran is the authority then the OT and NT are flawed - but, on the other hand, if the OT and NT are the authority then the Quran is flawed.

Likewise, I think I understand your drive to demonstrate the crucifixion is a lie: because, in the view of Islam, God could never surrender his true prophet to such a fate. However, if this was the historical reality of Christ then this would, again, reveal a flaw in Mohammed, would it not?

You speak of abrogations by God as if they are an impossibility - but through our Christian lens they are to be fully expected. If a man speaks against God he may incur God's wrath - however, if he changes his ways and submits to God then he incurs God's mercy. The purpose of the prophets was to bring about this repentence. The perception of conflict in God's choices has to do with his love and holiness - holiness may lead to judgment, whilst love may lead to prolonged patience. So the abrogations are innate in our picture of who God is.

Whether the crucifixion and resurrection were clearly prophesied in the OT doesn't alter my faith much: certainly there are scriptures that appear to describe them, and Jesus himself prophesied about his own death and resurrection.

Some of your comments are very unbelievable from the Christian perspective - you would need to provide more evidence for them. The mention of Mohammed in the OT is likely to be a generic concept rather than a specific one - and given the context of the entire OT and NT could hardly be seen to be a referance to Islam carrying the authority of God, from our perspective.

It is interesting that you give authority to documents that are said to be from the family of Christ but not to those other documents that are said to be from the followers and family of Christ which are contrary to your view. From a neutral perspective this does not seem consistent - and it seems to be those documents that agree with the Quran that are being favoured, rather than those that have been demonstrated to be historically most authoritative.

Likewise Barnabas and Paul, who were colleagues - you depict the 'Gospel of Barnabas' as being truth, but Paul's writings as being apostate, when both men were imparting the same gospel message while they were in partnership: Christ's death, burial and resurrection. Evidently the 'Gospel of Barnabas', if it is authentic and the same Barnabas, ties in with the Quran more - otherwise, if Paul and Barnabas conflicted, how would one know which one to take as being truth? But this reasoning always, always goes back to the authority of the Quran over the authority of the Bible - which I do not accept.

Many of your comments show a very real lack of understanding of the Chrisian perspective on the topic you are debating - and this discredits those parts of your argument which I know less about to the extent that I am content not to follow them up for now. Undoubtedly I will encounter them again in the future.

The differences between different versions of the Bible today really are minimal. Have you looked into them for yourself? It is also difficult to accept a wide sweeping comment like 'Jesus never got crucified according to Islam and the early Christians' doctrines' given the existence of the NT, it being saturated with historical accounts of this event.

The issue of contradiction is often limited by the lens one uses in understanding the Bible. Obviously the lens you are using is quite different from the one I use. Deuteronomy 4:2 certainly says nothing about the Bible being corrupt in the NIV version. Perhaps the differences you are picking up are actually between the Muslim version and the general versions of the Bible.

It's a shame you assume all Christians are lying, also: this is untrue.

Your use of Jeremiah 8:8 is interesting - but undone by Christ's confidence in the retaining of the true Law in his time, after Jeremiah. 'Not one letter of the Law will be undone.' There have often been false prophets - but evidently Christ considered the Torah to be intact at his time.

Again, you speak of Paul's lies: but why would he lie? Why is Paul the complete lier and Barnabas the complete bearer of truth? The NIV does not depict the gospel writers as 'mysterious and unknown people, in unknown places and unknown dates,' either - it gives an historical estimate, and as such seems more authentic then the approach you are suggesting.

The existence of 24000 books, if this is accurate (how many were copies?), at the time of the compilation of the Bible, also need not be a thing of great concern. How many references to Mohammed will there be on the net this moment - and how many would Islam claim as their own? Which references would be accurate, and which less accurate, in the view of Islam? A similar process led to the establishment of the Bible.

And, after all, the Quran is another document written substantially later than the other documents we have regarding what happened to Christ.

You say that famous theologians and historians believe that Paul was not truthful - based on what? In some cases, perhaps on their own atheism and agnosticism. And, of course, other famous theologians and historians believe that Paul was truthful.

Many of the contradictions you cite are actually not contradictions at all - they are simply evidence that you have not looked deeply enough into the Christian/Jewish side of the topic.

Isaiah 42:54, you say, predicts Islam: this verse doesn't exist in my NIV Bible. The view that Isaiah 7:14 refers to Mohammed also seems to take it well out of context. Isaiah 42, of course, is taken by Jews and Christians as refering to the Jewish Messiah, and chapters 43 and 44 reaffirm God's love for Israel and commitment to save Israel and remain as Israel's God.

And, to use your point backwards, if you consider Barnabas to be a prophet then you should also consider Paul, John and Matthew to be followers of Christ too: followers who were much closer to Christ than we are.

Much of this debate rests on the question of the authority of the Quran vs the authority of the Bible. Why do you believe the Quran to be of highest authority?

I'll finish there.

Again, I hope you have a good day.

 
At April 6, 2008 2:39:00 AM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As to copyists errors, the Kuran was in an oral tradition, not written until a hundred or so years after Mohammids death. It is full of copy errors. Scholars indicate much in the Quran can be traced to earlier oral traditions. Much in the Kuran reflects the psychology of Mohammed, not something divine.

 
At April 6, 2008 9:21:00 AM MDT , Blogger akhter said...

Who wrote the Qur'an



What makes Muslims believe that the Quran is not written by Prophet Muhammad? Does the Quran claim that it is from God? Could the Prophet have copied some portions of the Bible? Are there scientific facts in the Quran?

Muslims believe that Prophet Muhammad is not the author of the Quran. God is its Author. The following points bear the fact:

*First of all, the Quran itself, at a number of places and in different ways, says that it is from God. One of the claims runs thus: "This is indeed a Quran most honourable, a Book well-guarded...a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds." (Quran 56:77-80)

(Here, one ought to know the features of the Quran to understand the claim better. For instance, if the Quran had consisted of a number of books, and each book was made up of a number of chapters, then each of the books had to claim that it was from God in order to render the WHOLE volume as coming from God. But, this is fortunately not so with the Quran. The Quran is just ONE Book made up of 114 chapters. So, if the Quran claims, in any of its chapters, that the Book is from God, then the WHOLE Quran is from God. Yet, the Quran does not make the divine claim only once, but several times in different phrases and in different chapters.)

*If the Prophet had written the Quran _ a Book par excellence _ surely he would have claimed credit for it, but he did not. He could not claim what was not his. Indeed God says: "This Quran is not such as can be produced by anyone other than God." (10:37)

*The Prophet was unlettered. However, even if he was educated and had written the Quran, how could he be bold enough to make this statement: "Do they not consider (ponder over) the Quran (with care)? Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein discrepancies". (4:82)

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, commenting on this verse (verse 4:82) in his English translation of the Quran, says: "From a mere human point of view, we should have expected much discrepancy, because (1) Prophet Muhammad who promulgated it was not a learned man or philosopher, (2) it was promulgated at various times and in various circumstances, and (3) it is addressed to all grades of mankind. Yet, when properly understood, its various pieces fit together better than a jigsaw puzzle even when arranged without any regard to chronological order. There was just the One Inspirer and one inspired."

*The Quran took 23 years to complete. Had the verses of the Quran (which contains 6,666 verses) been written by the Prophet, he would have needed a number of drafts and the work would have needed editing, updating, etc. But this did not happen, yet the information is consistent throughout the Quran. The verses were taken down as dictated by the Prophet only once and no redrafting, editing or updating took place after that.

*At a number of stages during the 23-year period, challenges to reproduce, even a chapter of the Quran, were made. If the Prophet had written the Quran, he would not have made the challenges, for fear that the learned

Arabs and eminent poets of his time would have taken up his challenges and shamed him. One of the challenges goes thus: "And if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed (from time to time) to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter like thereunto..." (2:23)

*The Quran says that the Prophet was not learned.

So, if the Prophet was educated in some institution but mentioned in the Quran that he wasn't, he would have been accused of being a liar and his mission would have fallen through.

*Even if the Prophet was learned, how could he have written such an inimitable Book of Information and Wisdom without resorting to consultation with prominent scholars and the best books from the best libraries in the world?! If he did this, it would surely have been known, since every move he made was known to people. The Prophet was a historical figure, not a mythological figure.

*The Prophet was the busiest and most active person in history. So, how could he have found the time to write (even if he were educated) such a comprehensive and extensive Book of Guidance which would have needed years of seclusion and concentration to complete?

*In the Quran, in Chapter 111, it is mentioned that Abu Lahab, one of the Prophet's uncles who was always against Islam, would never accept Islam. This Revelation came some ten years before the death of Abu Lahab. How could the Prophet have dared to write this chapter because all he (Abu Lahab) needed to do to prove that the Quran was not the Words of God, was to accept Islam dishonestly?

*The Prophet was mentioned by name in the Quran only five times whereas Jesus Christ's name was (honourably) mentioned 25 times. Could the Prophet go to such an extent of honouring someone more than himself if he had written the Quran?

*There is a chapter in the Quran entitled and dedicated to "Mary", the mother of Jesus Christ, while there is no chapter called, or dedicated to, the Prophet's own mother, Aminah, or daughter, Fatimah, nor were their names mentioned in the Quran. Could this have happened if the Prophet was the author of the Quran?

*Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ, is glorified in the Quran as a "woman of all nations". Why would the Prophet glorify a woman he had never seen and one from another race, saying that she was chosen (by God) above all women unless the formulation of the verses had nothing to do with the Prophet's own authorship but that he only repeated what was inspired to him by God?

*In the Quran, God is called "Allah" (in Arabic). He is also referred to by His Attributes, like the Cherisher, the Merciful, the Almighty. There are 99 such Attributes but none of these is "Abba" (Father) by which the Arab Christians of the Prophet's time (and even today) refer to God. If the Prophet was the writer of the Quran, he would surely have used "Abba" as one of the names for God because of its familiarity and also because it was easier to say "Abba" than many of the Attributes.

*Although the Quran's objective is basically religious, it does touch on certain principles and laws governing the universe. A French scientist, Maurice Bucaille, in his book, "The Bible, the Quran and Science", says: "What initially strikes the reader confronted for the first time with a text of this kind (the Quran) is the sheer abundance of subjects discussed: the Creation, astronomy, the explanation of certain matters concerning the earth, and the animal and vegetable kingdoms, human reproduction ...I could not find a single error in the Quran. I had to stop and ask myself: if a man was the author of the Quran, how could he have written facts in the 7th Century AD that today are shown to be in keeping with modern scientific knowledge?''

*The Quran mentions a number of scientific facts which were unknown to the world then. Some of them are:

-The moon has no light of its own and that what we see is the reflected light of the sun. (91:1-2),

-The universe came about by a "big bang" or disintegration billions of years ago. (21:30),

-Every living thing began in water. (continuation of 21:30),

-Stages of reproduction of a life in the womb.(22:5),

-Every living thing, including vegetable matter, is created in pairs (male and female). (36:36),

-All celestial body (namely, moon and planets) have their own course of orbit. (7:54 and 21:33),

-Space travel is possible. (55:33), and

-There is also life (in whatever form) in other parts of the universe. (42:29).

-All these scientific facts were discovered only in the last couple of centuries whereas the Quran mentions them 14 centuries ago. How could the Prophet, even if he were educated, have known these fact centuries ahead of recent times?

*Learned Arabs and other experts in the Arabic language acknowledge that the style, diction and rendering in the Quran far excels those in the Hadith. Those in the Quran are inimitable, proving that the Quran is authored by God.

*Umar, later to become Caliph, had wanted to kill the Prophet because of his (Islamic) teachings. One day, Umar heard his sister reading something _ the sound, diction and meaning of which made him halt to listen. His sister, who had secretly converted to Islam, was reading (part of) the Quran. Umar realised that the Words he was listening to could not be the words of man. He submitted to Islam soon after.

*The Quran says: "If the whole of mankind and jinns (spirits) were to come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like thereof even if backed up by each other with help and support." (17:88) This is a bold statement indeed. If the Prophet had written the Quran, would he as a human being, dare make such an explosive statement? Would this statement go unchallenged by the learned Arabs of his time?

Prophet Muhammad, being an unlettered person, could not have written the Quran, a Book full of wisdom and one dealing with varied subject matters. The Quran categorically states: "This Quran is not such as can be produced by anyone other than God. (It is a Book) from the Lord of the Worlds." (10:37)

Why do Muslims refer to the Quran as a living miracle?

Many of God's Prophets in the past had performed miracles either to prove that they were sent by God or to help people to achieve certain goals. However, as these miracles were for certain people of the time of the respective Prophets, they are neither tangible nor available today as a living proof. But the Quran is. It is a miracle by itself. When people asked Prophet Muhammad what miracle he had performed, the Prophet pointed to the Quran.

Muslims regard the Quran as a living miracle because, among other reasons, it:

*Is a Book par excellence in the provision of complete guidance for this life and the Hereafter,
*Is available in the language (Arabic) as revealed to the Prophet,
*Is inimitable in diction, sound and rendering,
*Is accurate in its presentation of facts,
*Has remained pure (without interpolation),
*Has no contradiction or inconsistencies,
*Has influenced the lives of people, and
*Is responsible for the speedy spread of Islam, even now.

With regard to the Quran being a miracle from the point of view of its influence on people, Maulana Muhammad Ali in his book, "The Religion of Islam", says: "The Quran is a miracle because it brought about the greatest transformation that the world has ever witnessed _ a transformation of the individual, of the family, of the society, of the nation, of the country, an awakening material as well as moral, intellectual and spiritual. It produced an effect, a hundred thousand times greater than that of any other miracle recorded of any Prophet; hence, its claim to be the greatest of all miracles is uncontestable and uncontested."

Researches on the Quran have been made throughout these 14 centuries. More particularly, in recent years, in the wake of religious enquiries, Quranic scholars, scientists and mathematicians have each, in their own way and knowledge, discovered that the factual contents of the Quran as well as the arrangement of its Words and text point to the fact that the Quran is indeed the living miracle of Islam.

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"Every honest Jew who knows the history of his people cannot but feel a deep sense of gratitude to Islam, which has protected the Jews for fifty generations, while the Christian world persecuted the Jews and tried many times 'by the sword' to get them to abandon their faith." (Uri Avnery, a Jewish Journalist)

 
At April 11, 2008 10:00:00 AM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deut 18:18 is answered in
Acts 3:17 - which refers to Yeshua being the prophet like Moses.
To understand the context of Deut 17:15 where clearly we see that a ruler over the Israelites must be from among the Israelites themselves. All the Prophets and Kings from the Old Testament through to the New Testament were Israelites. Exodus 3:15 - The name of the Lord forever is YHWH in Hebrew.

 
At April 12, 2008 9:20:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, Akhter, for your explanation regarding the Muslim perspective of the Quran.

I read somewhere that Mohammed had a spiritual experience of a visitation: and at first he was uncertain as to whether it was an angel or a demon. Preceeding this, from what I understand, he was monotheistic and had approached both Judaism and Christianity, but had received a cool reception from both - and so then had followed his visitation.

Personally, I am quite open to the possibility that a greater mind than that of Mohammed was behind the Quran: but whose mind? That to me is the key question.

It seems clear that Mohammed himself believed the Quran to be from God - but was his belief correct? The Quran may not be solely human in origin - it may also be angelic in orgin. But an angel in submission to God, or rebelling against him? This is the question.

Mohammed may not have been educated in an institution, but it seems he was familiar with Judaism and Christianity - and so I would suggest he was still strongly influenced by these, though his final thrust, naturally, was that God now was choosing Ishmael over Isaac. With this certainty he then conquered much of the world for Allah.

You say the Quran is a miracle which has produced an effect one hundred thousand times greater than any other documented miracle: uncontested and uncontestable? This is untrue: I am contesting it now, and it is indeed contestable.

We Christians, of course, experience the physical resurrection of Christ as the greatest and most influential miracle of all time in its impact on our society and on our souls.

Much of what you have written about the Quran is actually my experience of the Bible - but the important difference to me is that Christ himself, being a Jew, endorsed the Old Testament as being the Word of God. The New Testament, of course, is about Christ, and gives the eye-witness testimony of his physical resurrection. It is this miracle that is the greatest in my mind: because it clearly supports Christ's assertion that he is 'the way, the truth and the life'.

Regarding the Jews: we Christians have indeed made some serious mistakes, contrary to the desire of Christ, over the last two thousand years, in our treatment of them, this is correct. Alongside this reality, though, I also wonder: what is your Islamic approach to the fundamentalist Muslims attacking Israel today? Why is Islam not protecting Israel from these extremists, if the extremists do not represent Islam? And, in many cases, why are Muslim countries declaring Israel to be their enemy, if this is not the inherent stance of the Quran?

And what of the conquest of much of the world by Mohammed for Allah? Was not Islam built upon efforts 'by the sword to get them to abandon their faith'? Is this approach not happening in some parts of Islam today?

I have heard that the Quran actually directly incites war against Jews and Christians - is this correct? Perhaps the Jews were preserved in the past by Muslims because they held no power over Israel - indeed, the fight for the Holy Land for many years was between Christians and Muslims, not Jews and Muslims. But now that the Jews have been returned to their land, after our appalling human failure of the Holocaust, Palestinians are fighting them in the name of Islam, are they not?

I must end it there - but I would be very interested in your response,

 
At May 19, 2008 2:00:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might I suggest a book called "The Case for Christ" written by an atheist. There is a lot of good research in the book that will cover nearly every question about the resurrection.

 
At May 19, 2008 2:00:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might I suggest a book called "The Case for Christ" written by an atheist. There is a lot of good research in the book that will cover nearly every question about the resurrection.

 
At May 19, 2008 2:00:00 PM MDT , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might I suggest a book called "The Case for Christ" written by an atheist. There is a lot of good research in the book that will cover nearly every question about the resurrection.

 
At May 19, 2008 3:32:00 PM MDT , Blogger akhter said...

WHY READ ANY BOOK , WHEN THERE IS MOTHER OF ALL THE BOOKS!

Jesus, Dead or Alive

And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the Apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so, and most surely who differ therein are only in a doubt about it. They have no knowledge in respect of it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure. 4: 157

To properly understand the meaning of this verse, first thing to find out is who are the people saying: Surely, we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the Apostle of Allah and why are they making this claim? Obviously they are the People of the Book, specifically the Jews. The preceding verses (4:153-156) clearly identify the Jews as misbehaving people, making unjustified and unnatural demands: They were asking the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) to cause a Book to descend on them from heaven. They had asked Moses to show them Allah openly. They took the calf for worship. The broke their Covenant with Allah. They denied the Signs of Allah. They tried to kill the prophets unjustly. They had sarcastically said that their hearts were wrapped in covers. They disbelieved. They uttered a grievous calumny against Marium, the mother Jesus, accusing her of immorality on giving birth to a child out of wedlock. The same Jews were falsely claiming that they had killed Jesus by getting him crucified on the cross!

Next thing to understand is to know why the Jews were making that claim! Most certainly they had some vicious intentions. They had rejected Jesus son of Marium, their Messiah, proclaiming that he was a false prophet. To prove their point and to convinced all the Jews that Jesus, son of Marium, was (God forbid) an impostor, they wanted him to be crucified on the cross -- dying an accursed death. According to the Torah, the sacred Book of the Jews, for he that is hanged (on wood) is accursed of God (Deuteronomy 21:23). Had Jesus been killed on the cross, then the Jews would have succeeded in establishing, according to their Scripture, that he was an accursed of God. That's how they wanted to disgrace him. They had already defamed his mother, by stigmatizing his birth, now they wanted to dishonor and discredit his claim that he was their Messiah. There could have been nothing more ignoble that dying an accursed death on the wood!

Keeping this background in mind the vicious campaign of the evil minded Jews to humiliate and smear the status of their Messiah, it becomes easy to understand why it was necessary for God to establish the honor and dignity of Jesus, son of Marium, to exalt his status by clearing him of all the false accusations of the Jews. That's why Allah had made a promise with Jesus that He would frustrate the plans of his enemies, He will not let him die an ignoble death on the cross. Allah was not to let the Jews kill him, but rather He would give him a natural death and exalt him. Allah says that the Jews could not kill him, could not crucify him, and thus could not defame him. They failed in their plan. Jesus was saved by a better plan of Allah. The Jews have no true knowledge and they are still following their conjectures and false claims thinking that he died on the cross!

If someone is not killed(i.e., murdered) or crucified on a cross, it should not lead us to the conclusion that such a person is automatically picked up physically by God and taken up to the heavens. There are other ways to meet one's death. One can die due to an illness, or an accident or old age. There are millions upon millions who meet their deaths without being killed, murdered or crucified. The most significant matter was to establish the honor of Jesus. Both verses 4:157 and 4:158 are surely connected with each other if we properly understand that it was an ignoble and accursed death that the Jews were claiming that Jesus had suffered, and the second verse is emphatically denying the false claims of the Jews. It is asserting that Jesus was not accursed of God but rather exalted towards God. Both the verses need to be read in the light that the mischievous Jews were trying to prove that Jesus was under the curse (laânat) of Allah. The curse refers to the state of one's heart when the heart is estranged from God and becomes dark being rejected by God. But in the case of Jesus, Allah claims that his heart was drenched in love of Allah, he being the Messiah and an Apostle of Allah. He was exalted towards Allah. In bal rafaâ hullaho alaihiâ the word balâ means Nay, i.e., On the contrary. Thus this verse is connected with the earlier verse, telling us that whatever the Jews think is incorrect, they have no knowledge of what they are talking about, they are just following a false wishful conjecture; there claim is totally rejected by Allah!

To think that Jesus was physically picked up by Allah towards Him is nothing but problematic. It is to assume (God-forbid) that Allah is also physically sitting somewhere in the heavens -- far away from the earth! The Holy Quran most emphatically denies that Allah is physically located at any place regardless how many trillion light years one may try to conceive the distance between the earth and the heavens. Allah is not restricted to any specific physical location. Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth (24:35); There is nothing whatever like unto Him (42:11); to each person, Allah is nearer than even his jugular vein (50:16). So, question arises: What does it mean for someone to be picked up physically towards Him? If Allah is everywhere, then (God-forbid) we have to believe (like Christians do) that Jesus is also everywhere along with Allah with his physical body for last 2000 years!

It is amazing to read the examples taken from the Quran in support of the opinion that Jesus is sitting in heavens alive with his physical body. First, the case of the People of the Cave (Asahab e Kahf) is referred in an attempt to prove the point. As a matter of fact, the People of the Cave is in a reference to the early Christians who were strict monotheists (Unitarians), and who fearing persecution and death at the hands of the Romans, went underground into hiding -- mostly living in the catacombs. It is a historical fact that the duration of their persecution was the first three centuries. During this period of harsh persecution, Roman Emperors such as Tacitus Nero and others inflicted most inhuman tortures upon the early followers of Jesus (peace be on him). Their remaining hidden from the outside world for a long time is also a historical fact. Their case of remaining hidden in the caves (catacombs) does not prove that some human being can stay physically alive for 2000 years in the outer space or in heavens!

Secondly, the Shaheed(martyrs) are declared to be alive, but we all know that none of the martyrs is kept alive with his physical body. We do bury the bodies of our martyred brothers and sisters in their graves knowing well that they are not dead. The case of Jesus being alive in the sense that he still has his physical body intact and functioning is not the same as that of a Shaheed being alive.

The details of our Prophet's ascension provide us a convincing proof that Jesus (peace be on him) is dead and buried like all other prophets of Allah before him. He was seen by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) along with other prophets such as Adam, Yahya, Yusuf, Idris, Haroon, Musa, and Ibrahim (may peace be on them all) were also there in various levels of heavens. Now, we have to either believe that Adam, Yahya, Yusuf, Musa, Ibrahim and other prophets are also "alive with their physical bodies" just like Jesus, or Jesus is dead and buried like all other Prophets who were seen in the heavens by the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). We cannot conceive one in the heavens with his physical body, and the rest of them with their physical bodies left in their graves on the earth!

It is most unreasonable to compare a human being (with a physical body) with Gabriel an angel made out of Light. To make a claim that living human body can also be taken up towards Allah is twisting the teachings of the Qur'an. For humans, Allah has His own laws. Our Prophet (may peace and blessings of Allah be on him) was asked by the disbelievers to ascend up into heavens and bring down a Book for them, and in response to this ridiculous demand of the disbelievers, Allah Saubhanaho wa Taãla directed the Prophet to say: 'Holy is my Lord! I am not but a man, a Messenger' (17:93).

Trying to prove that Jesus is still alive, the verse 4:159 of the Quran is clearly being misread. If all the People of the Book (all the Jews and Christians) have to believe in the true position of Jesus before his (Jesus) death, then the fact remains that there are countless People of the Book who have already passed away and they did NOT believe in the true position of Jesus as a prophet of Allah. There will be innumerable more People of the Book who will live before the death of Jesus without believing in his true position. The Jews will keep on believing him as an impostor and the Christians will keep on believing him to be the only begotten Son of God, and they will never see the truth before the death of Jesus. Thus, it will be wrong to say that all People of the Book shall believe before his (Jesus) death.

The mistake in understanding the correct meaning of the verse (4:159) can be removed when we understand that the pronoun this or it in the clause, believe i